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Nevsky
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Scale and plot
Posted 14-Sep-2006 12:27 AM
Modified by Nevsky On 14-Sep-2006  12:32 AM

Good morning,


I'm green in AutoCad and need your help. The question: How can I scale the plot for printing on several A4 sheets. What I have to do to set borders coincide and limits.


Thank you in advance!


Sorry for my english





kornflake412
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RE: Scale and plot
Posted 14-Sep-2006 8:50 AM

Several A4 sheets - as in one drawing printed large using A4 sheets / or multiple drawings on single A4 sheets?

If it is one drawing spead out over multiple sheets and tiled and taped together then AutoCAD cannot do that. You need some kind of photoediting program. It wont be easy. Try plotting to a very hi-res JPEG and import that into Photoshop or something. Could probably break it apart and plot that way. Never had to do this before but this is how I would aproach the issue.

TOM
ARQFAR
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RE: Scale and plot
Posted 14-Sep-2006 9:06 AM

YES, YOU CAN PRINT IN SEVERAL SHEETS: IN YOUR PLOT WINDOW, THERES AN OPTION FOR PLOT AREA & WHAT TO PLOT, CLICK ON THE ARROW AND CHOOSE WINDOW, YOULL HAVE TO DO KIND OF A PUZZLE TO VISUALIZE THE ENTIRE DRAWING. IS THAT WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT?
Nevsky
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RE: Scale and plot
Posted 15-Sep-2006 8:01 AM

I have a plot. And I have to print it in a large scale on several A4 sheets, but 'Window' using is not suitable, because plots on different sheets doesn't feet each other.
ARQFAR
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RE: Scale and plot
Posted 15-Sep-2006 6:17 PM

THEY WILL NEVER FIT, YOULL HAVE TO PLOT SEVERAL A4 PRINTS, AS YOU SAID. THEN TAPE THEM TOGETHER, I MYSELF DID IT LIKE SO, WITH "WHAT TO PLOT" (WINDOW) OPTION, JUST GIVE THE SCALE YOU NEED & DONT SELECT ALL THE DRAWING, SELECT WHAT FITS IN AN A4 SHEET.  MAYBE YOULL HAVE TO DRAW A4 SIZE RECTANGLES IN YOUR WHOLE DRAWING, LAYER THEM AT DEFPOINTS LAYER SO THEY DONT PRINT OR PRINT EM AND USE EM LIKE REFERENCE FOR TAPING THEMEM TOGETHER.

ryejuan
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RE: Scale and plot
Posted 15-Sep-2006 9:52 PM

ey dude...
i can give you a real helpful tip in using the printing system in autocad...
as you said you try using window selection but if i understand correctly you cant print the whole drawing ryt?
you can message me thru ym {i.d. ryejuan}
so i can answer your questions much better...





 
ARQFAR
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RE: Scale and plot
Posted 16-Sep-2006 11:01 AM

WHY DONT YOU ENLIGHT US ALL? ...DUDE?

ryejuan
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RE: Scale and plot
Posted 17-Sep-2006 10:30 AM


alryt... i just don't wana say things here that is not with connection with the topic... coz maybe just got the wrong idea...
well here it goes anyways...
you want to fit all you drawings into an a4 size paper yet you don't know wat it looks like in the model view so here's a good tip.
first you need to know the measurements of an a4 size paper... (210mmx297mm)
second you need to know wat scale you are going to use...(1:100, 1:200... etc)
then after that you will draw a rectangle in your model view.... here's the example...
 
you wana use the scale 1:200 for your drawing
you need dis computation- 2.54(this depends on the value your are using if its mm or m.)x210(size of a4 or watever papaer size ur using)x200(the scale you are using)...
after you figure out the value of the a4 in this scale...
you are now ready to draw your rectangle...
after drawing it in the model you will see if your drawing fits the rectangle or not...
if not tell me...
if yes...
this is the time you will use the window selection in the plot dialog box...
 
hope this help you and is wid connection wid ur problem... Ü





ARQFAR
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RE: Scale and plot
Posted 17-Sep-2006 12:13 PM

I GUESS RYEJUAN AND I  MEAN THE SAME. WHAT GIVES YOU THE SCALE IS THE SIZE OF YOUR SHEET ON THE MODEL TAB, AT LEAST THATS HOW I PRINT. I DONT KNOW HOW TO USE THE LAYOUT TAB FOR PAPER SIZES, BUT LIKE THE GUYS IN 3D S MAX FORUM SAYS: DO THE TUTORIALS.

BTW: RYEJUAN WICH IS YOUR NATIVE LANGUGE?






ryejuan
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RE: Scale and plot
Posted 18-Sep-2006 9:30 AM

well i also can tell you about how to use the layout tab in autocad...
when you scale the drawing, you will use the command [zoom; scale; then the value of the scale]
*tip: the drawing should be window zoomed then use the zoom;scale*
example.:
 enter command:
zoom
scale
1/100xp (the value of your scale)...
 hope you understand dis...
you also need to use an mv setup in the layout...
 
[i'm from the phil. native lang. is Filipino...*]
just add my messenger...ok






ARQFAR
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RE: Scale and plot
Posted 18-Sep-2006 11:08 AM

COOL! WHAT DOES MV MEANS?
jwlyon1
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RE: Scale and plot
Posted 18-Sep-2006 6:05 PM

mv is the command to make a new viewport in layout/paperspace, no?

anyway, so i think the easiest way to accopmlish this using the info already provided is:
1.   Set up your drawing in modelspace with all the information you want to see there (instead of doing notes, dims, etc. in paperspace).
2.   Draw a non-plotting grid across the model that corresponds to the size of an A4 page at the appropriate scale. This will create the snapping points for the plot window selection (and snaps are your friend!)
3.   This is where you have choice: Either to make multiple layout tabs, each corresponding to a seperate section of the grid you made in model space, or one big sheet with a viewport (created with mv command!) that contains the entire model. I recommend the first option, but others may strongly disagree. I see an advantage in being able to print it all at once (by right clicking on the layout tabs at the bottom left of your screen) and selecting publish multiple layouts or the similar command in your version.
4a. So assuming you go with the first option, multiple layouts, in the first layout tab, make one viewport per layout that corresponds to each section of the grid. Make sure that viewport is centered on the page, and in the same place on each layout. Make sure the viewport is at the scale you want. And make sure all the viewports are the same scale. The easiest way is to just make on initial layout and copy it for all the rest.
5a. This is the tricky part. Select the plot window in the layout, snap it to the corners of your viewport, and print it at 1:1 on your A4 sheet. Do a test print, and if it all looks good, run the whole batch by right-clicking on the tab and selecting all of them. Then publish them all.
4b. Assuming you go the on big viewport route: in the big viewport, select the plot window and start selecting and plotting each grid. Each grid will have to be individually selected each time you want to print. The prints will all be at 1:1 assuming you have the single giant viewport set to the right scale.

So hows that? Make sense? I could post screen shots if you need. But you'd probably have to just email me. I'm bad about checking back.

Good luck.
jwillie
Alfatester
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RE: Scale and plot
Posted 02-Feb-2007 1:06 PM
Modified by Alfatester On 02-Feb-2007  1:07 PM

I have used this poster software to print drawing. But at first is was needed to export drawing from AutoCad to metafile.
Result was satisfied.









 

ARQFAR
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RE: Scale and plot
Posted 02-Feb-2007 2:42 PM

I THINK WHEN YOU PUBLISH AS METAFILE, JPG, TIFF OR WHATEVER KIND OF FILE BESIDES  .DWG, YOU LOOSE YOUR SCALE, DONT YOU?
EVERY PLOTTER OR PRINTER HAS ITS OWN SOFTWARE.





aapdesigns
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RE: Scale and plot
Posted 06-Nov-2007 12:59 PM

I've pulled out most of my hair on this one.  At my last job, we used multiple layout tabs in paperspace to print a single project in model space.  I would select several layout tabs, right click, select plot, ensure my plotter and pen settings were the same, and hit ok.  I never had a problem plotting.  I just started my own business, and got everything set up and ready, selected several layout tabs as I've always done in the past, right click, and the "plot" option is not an option.  I can see it, but it's not lit up, and won't allow me to select it.  I figure there has to be a system variable set wrong, any ideas?  Seems like a simple problem, but it's beyond me.
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