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The3DCraze
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Seamless Texture Generator Pro
Posted 02-Aug-2006 11:16 AM
Modified by The3DCraze On 02-Aug-2006  11:29 AM

The Seamless texture generator pro can generate seamless textures from home made photos, in some cases in 2 seconds for one 1024*1024 texture. It can remove perspective, by a four - point system, it doesn't have any unsightly alpha blends, works on any home photos, you can edit the sharpness of it, you can export as a high quality jpg, the feedback from buyers has been phenonimal, any size will work, shows a tiled demo after making it seamless and includes a help file. This was originally created by Shawn Tanner and he sold it at $24.99 each, but I am selling it for $16.99 each. Any buyers? Also, I am giving out free 256*256 demos of your texture, just for a sneak preview of the prog. (2 textures per person)
Zydroid
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RE: Seamless Texture Generator Pro
Posted 09-Aug-2006 2:57 PM

I tried it and was not very impressed at all. A hard thing making a seamless texture without a human eye...
But I would say that wouldn't I ;)
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RE: Seamless Texture Generator Pro
Posted 09-Aug-2006 3:17 PM
Modified by zaphad1 On 09-Aug-2006  3:20 PM

I havent tried it but a seamless texture isnt nesscessarily any good, it depends on what you want.

A big thing  big megapixels that only just overlap  in actual use sounds like the ideal application for this.

Small textures, game res mininum files wouldnt work too well as they have to be seen tiled 5 or 6 times or so,anything obviously repeating really stands out then, carpets and cloth are obvious examples.

There is no software that can make it obviously non repeating without it being too bland as far as I know, you need a human eye really for the best ones.

The3DCraze
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RE: Seamless Texture Generator Pro
Posted 11-Aug-2006 8:30 AM

From recent comments, price reduced to $6. And, it does need quite high quality pictures to get a good effect, I agree, and to make the textures you need a human eye, but if you do have enough skill you can infact get a 512*512 texture, if you buy pre-made grass, un-used carpetry, etc. As long as you know you can profit from buying all the stuff.
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RE: Seamless Texture Generator Pro
Posted 11-Aug-2006 11:21 AM

A question; did you buy the copyright off of Shawn Tanner?
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RE: Seamless Texture Generator Pro
Posted 11-Aug-2006 6:11 PM
Modified by zaphad1 On 12-Aug-2006  1:23 PM

human eye thought id get that in it seems popular.


So in fact its not even that good then? and might even be rubbish?Your 2nd post sounds a lot different fom the next

one, this brilliant program cant do this and cant do that, it sounds good if youre a bit clueless and an easy option if youre not too bothered by them being no good.


It needs a human eye lol.

frendovalya
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RE: Seamless Texture Generator Pro
Posted 13-Aug-2006 7:39 AM

My pattern maker in PS works just dandy and touch-up can be done with my more trustworthy,....human eyes, I have two of them! want one Zydroid?
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RE: Seamless Texture Generator Pro
Posted 13-Aug-2006 11:44 AM
Modified by zaphad1 On 13-Aug-2006  11:57 AM

lol very droll I' m sure hes got 2 very good ones ,eyes do come in useful for graphics Ive found.

Seriously though has anybody used this and found it good? It does sound ok for simple things.

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RE: Seamless Texture Generator Pro
Posted 14-Sep-2006 8:53 PM
Modified by Nojouvi On 14-Sep-2006  9:10 PM


 It was touted on the NWN forum and I along with several people bought it for the original price.   I personally found it better than any of the so called 'seamless tiling' photoshop plugins I could find out there, both free and at a price.  One thing it does very well is to even out the shading/luminosity of the seams areas. I generally use it in conjunction with a couple of actions. I realign and clean up the seams first in photoshop, then I load the texture in the seamless generator to remove some highlights and blend the seams while retaining definition. Then I finish it up in my graphic programs. So it does save me quite a few steps since I can spend > 2 hrs to make a photorealistic texture seamless and patternless. 

IMO it's a good program for people who need seamless textures and are not graphic designers. It can certainly be improved upon with new features to keep it up to date. e.g. copy/paste, more selection choices and new or improved file formats such as transparent PNG, DDS etc...Anyway I am not going to post pictures since this is not an advertisement, I just felt that the disparaging comments were unwarranted. The original owner used to have a test version that could do everything but save the file. To the new owner I'd say,  ensure that test version is made available to people. Associate with a good programmer who can improve on the product and DON'T lower the price. This is one of these cases where the less it costs, the more people are going to think it's crap. Case in point, that drop from $24 to $6 did *wonders* for your credibility...And if you want to get rid of it, Id consider buying it from you.

N'way, good luck in your venture.





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RE: Seamless Texture Generator Pro
Posted 15-Oct-2006 3:18 AM
Modified by zaphad1 On 15-Oct-2006  3:39 AM


cleaning the shading on seam areas is a pig to do it sounds like its worth getting just for that

 i crop it and use the high pass filter to get it even

i havent tried it sorry for disparaging remarks it does sound pretty good as a first step but i still think the best textures are pretty much painstakingly made

 have a look at zydroids textures theyre well top quality.

It all depends on what you want I suppose.

PS im not a graphic designer and neither are most people who do textures its just a hobby to get a bit of extra money, but were all concerened with making them super brilliant.





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RE: Seamless Texture Generator Pro
Posted 24-Feb-2007 5:22 PM
Modified by sswift On 24-Feb-2007  5:26 PM

Hello, I am the developer of this program.  My name is Shawn Swift, not Shawn Tanner. 

I have never heard of this 3D Craze person, but I have not given him permission to resell the software for $6 or any other price.  If it is his own copy he is reselling, I would allow it, but it sounds like he's just selling copies to all comers.  Buy it from him at your own risk.  If I start getting lots of support questions from people who haven't purchased directly from me I may stop providing support to those people! :-)

I would like to address some of the complaints here.  STG is not meant to replace an artist.  It is a tool.  In some cases, the textures it outputs will be perfectly usable as is, and they will look quite a bit better than those output from other seamless texture programs because of its advanced algorithms.  Dirt and brick for example work very well.  Two minutes and you have a seamless brick texture.  Can't beat that!  In other cases you might need to touch things up.  The program won't corrrect color and contrast for you if the original image is screwed up to begin with.  But
you can always correct that in photoshop after making it seamless. 

If you haven't tried it, please do so before you discount it.  I wrote this for me to use in the development of my own games and texture collections.  So if I didn't think it was a useful tool, I wouldn't have written it.  The idea was born when I was trying to figure out how to avoid having to make thousands of textures I'd photographed seamless for a texture collection I wanted to sell. I knew other programs weren't up to the task, and it ocurred to me to write my own.  And uipon consideration I came up with an algorithm whcih I thought would work better.  And it does work better. So much better that it surprised even me.

As for the price, I've played around with the price and it doesn't sell any better if I lower the price.  And at the current price it hardly sells enough copies to even support the ads and the website, while still being worth supporting.  If you like the program, please don't go looking for cheaper places to get it if you want it to ever be improved.  I will get to adding more features eventually, but it doesn't make enough money for me to spend time on it right now, and it has enough features to be plenty useful as it is.  I wanted to keep it simple from the beginning, unlike other tools which have 1000 options and you can't even figure out how to do the one thing you bought the program to do after searching through all the options for half an hour.

Oh and before I forget, you can find all the information on the program that you want and a demo at http://seamlesstexturegenerator.com.
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RE: Seamless Texture Generator Pro
Posted 25-Feb-2007 7:01 AM
Modified by frendovalya On 25-Feb-2007  7:30 AM

Mr. Swift,


Have you tried hosting it for sale, non-exclusively, at places that allow that? Turbo Squid might arrange a deal with you to host the prog here. Next, put it up at Renderosity.com and DeviantArt.org. Personal sites are possibly, the most difficult way, to sell your wares. 'Rosity and others are well established. If your program is popular you may  get it showcased there for free, to millions of viewers.


I also found you must generate your own buzz, initially with a P site. The buzz at Renderosity would either flare up fast or do nearly nothing.


Artists, by their nature are apt to pick apart your app anyways so, the first 20 or so comments should assess it's marketability for you, as long as you let the right people see it.


Your happy bootlegging theif above, did the smart thing and plugged the product in a forum. Although it's a bit spammish, there are creative ways to advertise your product on-line.


On-line advertising is still a very new challenge. Afterall, look at the industrialized corporation, as a whole? They are barely over 100 years old and historically speaking, they are still babes in the woods, still making overall errors and discovering better, more efficient tactics. On-line business is still being breast fed to maturity, in retrospect and there are a few of us, who keep an eye on this and have watched the web grow over many years.









 

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RE: Seamless Texture Generator Pro
Posted 03-Mar-2007 11:04 AM

I see your point sswift I've spent days at a time on one single texture, the  main prob has been does it look good tiled x 4 or 5? This is where an otherwise good texture fails a lot.

And you said thousands of photos lol.

Anything that helps people and works well has to be good.

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RE: Seamless Texture Generator Pro
Posted 09-Mar-2007 6:15 PM

Hi shawn I looked on google and got to your site, it seems a shame you have so many adverts there on what is basically a good product ,some of them competing directly against you, maybe you could have a rethink on the site?

You know best .

You'd have a lot more artisitic expression on a redone site with no adverts and be able to plug it and show it off a lot more which is pretty essential really.

 A showcase would be good, best of luck

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RE: Seamless Texture Generator Pro
Posted 07-May-2007 5:43 PM

Shawn, contact support and let em know that the crazy dude is selling your work without your permission.
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RE: Seamless Texture Generator Pro
Posted 21-Jul-2007 4:52 PM

zaphad:
I have no idea what you're talking about.  My website doesn't have ANY ads.  You must not have gone to seamlesstexturegenerator.com.
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The3dCraze you are soo busted
Posted 04-Sep-2007 7:57 PM
Modified by mkiii On 04-Sep-2007  7:58 PM

You almost have to admire the bare faced cheek of the so called 3dcraze coming here and touting warez copies of this software, then haggling over the price. I doubt that he even paid the original cost in the first place.

How come he still hasn't been thrown off TS?
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RE: The3dCraze you are soo busted
Posted 12-Sep-2007 1:15 AM
Modified by zaphad1 On 12-Sep-2007  1:26 AM


The thing is mkill I dont admire them they are THEIFS!



Maybe they thought it was a bit out of the way and unknown and they could get away with it, no chance, theres too many people on here who know if a things ripped off.


Eveyrone knows a burglar gets nicked by the cops now and then caught redhanded, they are duly sentenced for stealing property belonging to someone else.


To me internet theft is the same thing but its hard to prove and  who do you go to?

Its like these films on bit torrents people are giving them free, its a gift, you cant really prosecute people for receiving a gift you have to get back to the original source.





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RE: The3dCraze you are soo busted
Posted 22-Sep-2007 5:36 AM

I did say "almost" :)
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